Showing posts with label Gay Marriage. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Gay Marriage. Show all posts

Friday, May 8, 2009

GET READY for the THRILLA! The EPIC Cultural War Debate!!! BLKSEAGOAT vs. ATTORNEYMOM

Please tune in as Blogging Titans, Shane (AKA BLKSeaGoat) and Shwana (AKA Attorneymmom) step into the fray of the Gay Marriage debate. The last we clashed was on Gina's blog over much of the same thing. This time, we decided to have structured discussion to clarify our positions on the subject. I'm sure sparks will fly, so join us!!!

Listen to Conservative Black Woman on BlogTalkRadio talk radio

Conservativeblkwoman (http://www.conservativeblkwoman.blogspot.com/) will host a debate between two very passionate and opinionated bloggers Blkseagoat (http://www.blacksapience.blogspot.com/) and Attorneymom (http://www.charactercorner.blogspot.com/). Each will state their very compelling cases for and against same-sex marriage.

Place: Blogtalk Radio
Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009
Showtime: 6:00 PM to 8:00 PM EST
Call-in Number: (646) 716-6204
Click here to join the debate

LET'S GET READY TO RUMBBBBBBBBLE!!!

Wednesday, May 6, 2009

It's On and Poppin'!!! BLKSEAGOAT vs. ATTORNEYMOM - GAY MARRIAGE DEBATE!!! Hosted by ConservativeBlkWoman

Listen to Conservative Black Woman on BlogTalkRadio talk radio

Conservativeblkwoman (http://www.conservativeblkwoman.blogspot.com/) will host a debate between two very passionate and opinionated bloggers Blkseagoat (http://www.blacksapience.blogspot.com/) and Attorneymom (http://www.charactercorner.blogspot.com/). Each will state their very compelling cases for and against same-sex marriage.

Place: Blogtalk Radio
Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009
Showtime: 6:00 PM to 8:00 PM EST
Call-in Number: (646) 716-6204
Click here to join the debate

LET'S GET READY TO RUMBBBBBBBBLE!!!

Tuesday, May 5, 2009

BLKSeaGoat on Gay Marriage vs Religion

The below quote was a response to a posting on Character Corner in which Attorneymom asserts her disdain with Christianity being associated with bigotry.

Add me to the list. YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH MY LEGAL RIGHT TO EQUITABLE TREATMENT UNDER THE LAWS YOU'VE TAKEN AN OATH TO DEFEND AND PROTECT.

The same legal right that you have to enter into a binding contract with your husband, to legitimize and codify your partnership is the exact same thing I want. Period.

I want to be able to legally visit my lover on the ICU without too much legal wrangling.

I want to know that if anything were to happen to either of us, that NIETHER of our next of kin could exploit legal loopholes to usurp property purchases and survivorship rights if we have children.

I want my gay tax dollars that are currently being used to support ANTI-GAY measures to be just as valid as yours. I want to NOT BE FIRED for being gay (currently still LEGAL in many states, GA is one of them).

I want Christians to stop being so damned hypocritical when it comes to the selective application of their morality and tenets of faith. Congress made no rule respecting any religion; the influence of the Christian Church MUST GO!

Finally, Perez Hilton is a GOSSIP columnist. He sensationalizes everything. I wouldn't dare call Ms. CA a bitch for expressing herself. She is entitled to believe what she wants and practice whatever she wants. However, when the practice of that religion or belief is used to disenfranchise a group of people already marginalized, by many laws that clearly have a religious basis, it goes against justice and equality Shwana.

You cannot obfuscate the fact that the Bible was NEVER intended to be a policy document. That's why the Constitution was created.

Now regarding the release of those pictures, WHY would a moral and upstanding teenager take racy photos in the first place? Her photos are being used to undermine her by Hilton, in the same way that Hilton's tirade against her is being used by NOM to undermine him and the supporters of gay marriage.

Again, you have the right to practice your freedom of religious exercise, speech, and belief system. It shouldn't be used as it has in the past, to deprive groups of marginalized people equal rights. BTW, We can do that podcast if your ready to argue it from a legal and civil perspective. After all, your marriage was licensed by the State on NJ as a civil contract. It was consecrated as a religious sacrament by having your wedding in a church.


I'm working on a post about this now which completely reverses my passive approach to the gay marriage debate. Nationally, Americans support Gay Marriage 49%-51%, a significant gain from polling numbers in the past. As more states vote to affirm and courts uphold gay marriage laws, those numbers can only increase.

Thursday, February 19, 2009

5 Million Dollar Marriage Education Initiative to Go Forth and Confuse More People; Ummm No Homosexuals Included Though

So the Federal Government has gone back into the business of invading people's person relationships in an attempt to dictate how they should act towards each other. Given the sorry state of our economy, the Feds have figured that there's no better time to launch its Healthy Marriage Initiative to persuade folks to get together to save money. This initiative is going to cost 5 million dollars and was actually authorized under Bush's now defunct administration. President Obama thought it might be pretty cool to continue the program I suppose. They even have a neat little quote from his book, The Audacity of Hope strategically placed on the home page for the initiative.

Now, I am allfor people being taught how to be in relationships because many folks don't know how to relate to other people. HOWEVER, I am miffed at the fact that this initiative is inherently discriminatory in that it completely ignores any monagamous, mutually exclusive relationship that isn't heteronormative. The proponents of this program cite benefits such as economic security and family stability as evidence that marriage works. If that's the case, why not extend that same benefit to gays? Why use gay taxpayers' money to fund an initiative that selectively excludes them because of moralism?

If one were to carefully examine all of the programs implemented by the previous administration influenced by the shallow morality of conservative ideologues, one would conclude that those programs are ineffective. Abstinence only, marriage education, promise ring type faith based programs which received federal funding, HAVE NOT WORKED. Supporters of these program lament about them not having enough time to work, when they have had ample time to work and be evaluated. The data obtained from multiple evaluations is the same. More teens are still having sex and some are still getting pregnant. Black girls are still getting STDs at rates higher than whites and the GOP, the party of the moralists, had to embrace teen pregnancy as a "normal American Family Value" during Palin's rise to national prominence during the Presidential campiagn. Probably the most important statistic to demonstrate that moralism fails is the National divorce rate... it's still OVER 50% and has remained that way for a few decades.

So what are gay, tax paying americans to do? It is completely disrespectful that my taxes are being used to push an ineffective agenda that will no doubt result in people getting married to each other who will undoubtedly end up divorcing each other. Fifty percent is an "F" and a really bad one. I'm not an opponent of heterosexual marriage. Coversely, I an opponent of ANY program that discriminates against a group of people whose taxes are being exploited to further the oppression of another group. This case is no different.